Survivorship Bias Datapoint of the Day
Veryan Allen has many bones to pick with John Bogle, most of which seem to be some variation on the basic theme that hedge funds are a better investment than index funds. Interestingly, he never takes issue with Bogle's main point, which is that index funds are a much better investment than mutual funds. But he does pull out one very interesting statistic:
If you had bought the ORIGINAL 500 components and held on with no adjustments whatsoever you would have outperformed the "real" S&P 500 even though only 86 names survived the past 50 years.
It's true that big indices are, almost by definition, overweight winners. The Intels and Microsofts of this world have to comprise a large part of the S&P 500 and the Dow, otherwise those indices simply wouldn't reflect the reality of the markets. But you'd be wrong, it would seem, if you concluded that their returns have been boosted as a result. The Dow drops Bethlehem Steel and adds Microsoft? Great – but remember that it adds Microsoft only after that company has already posted the vast majority of its gains.
Maybe a really long-term buy-and-hold investor should just buy 10 shares apiece of each stock in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, and hold on to them all. I wonder how the returns would compare to those of the Dow itself.
- Q
- Dec 2 2008 10:34PM EST
- Finance Salaries: A Reply
- Dec 2 2008 8:07PM EST
- The Failed Subprime Clampdown
- Dec 2 2008 4:29PM EST
- Blame Citigroup's woes on the Citi-Travelers Merger
- Dec 2 2008 2:30PM EST
- Greenberg's Chutzpah
- Dec 2 2008 12:26PM EST
- Super-Seniors: The Last Word
- Dec 2 2008 12:04PM EST
- Pay Bankers Much Less
- Dec 2 2008 10:58AM EST
- Great Moments in Politics, California Edition
- Dec 2 2008 10:35AM EST
- Super-Seniors: Your Questions Answered
- Dec 2 2008 9:52AM EST
- What's a Super-Senior Tranche?
- Dec 1 2008 9:25PM EST
- Extra Credit, Monday Edition
- Dec 1 2008 6:29PM EST
- Zimbabwe: When Even the Central Bank Can't Keep Up
- Dec 1 2008 5:07PM EST
- Genius
- Dec 1 2008 4:14PM EST
- Adventures in Shopping, Black Friday Edition
- Dec 1 2008 3:55PM EST
- Endowments Dump Private Equity Stakes
- Dec 1 2008 3:22PM EST
Categories
Links
- Email Felix Salmon
- Alphaville

- Marginal Revolution

- The Panelist

- FP Passport

- Overcoming Bias

- Andrew Leonard

- Barry Ritholtz

- Brad Setser

- Carbon Tax Center

- Calculated Risk

- Greg Mankiw

- Free Exchange

- Dean Baker

- Alexander Campbell

- Kash Mansori

- The Bayesian Heresy

- A Fistful of Euros

- John Quiggin

- Michael Mandel

- Lance Knobel

- Mark Thoma

- Dan Gross

- Curbed

- Streetsblog

- Chris Anderson

- Deal Journal

- MarketBeat

- DealBook

- DealBreaker

- Carl Bialik

- Michelle Leder

- Brad DeLong

- The Epicurean Dealmaker

- Naked Capitalism

- Ultimi Barbarorum

- Econospeak

- Fortune: Daily Briefing

- Financial Crookery










